block question

[stevew007]

so i want to swap a 2.0 vw into my samurai. the adapter company says it will work with anything pre 98 well i found a 98 jetta for $250 and was wondering when the block changed and how i can tell if its different?

[tom5191]

If you're in the U.S. then it changed in half way through 1999. 1998 would be the old style still

[stevew007]

Originally Posted by tom5191

If you're in the U.S. then it changed in half way through 1999. 1998 would be the old style still

sweet thanx for the info. got another question for you

about how much taller is the 2.0 vs the 1.8? doing a lot of reading and see alot of people doing a 2.0 with 1.8 head for height issues. but none say how much difference there is

[tom5191]

Personally, I'd rather have the 16v head rather than the 1.8t's 20v head. In Europe they made a 2.0 16v in the MK3 that had nearly the same power as the VR6 with less weight, and it's an easier swap. N/A or turbo, I'd MUCH rather have the 16v. Nothing Leaves Stock now makes a throttle body adapter that lowers the TB for hood clearance now too, so that's no longer a problem for most.

As far as the height difference from the 2.0 to the 1.8, I'm not really sure.

[stevew007]

Originally Posted by tom5191

If you're in the U.S. then it changed in half way through 1999. 1998 would be the old style still

Originally Posted by tom5191

Personally, I'd rather have the 16v head rather than the 1.8t's 20v head. In Europe they made a 2.0 16v in the MK3 that had nearly the same power as the VR6 with less weight, and it's an easier swap. N/A or turbo, I'd MUCH rather have the 16v. Nothing Leaves Stock now makes a throttle body adapter that lowers the TB for hood clearance now too, so that's no longer a problem for most.

As far as the height difference from the 2.0 to the 1.8, I'm not really sure.

wow thats a sweet little bit of info thanx. I wish i had garage space right now
doing the rear quarters on my wifes 65 stang.

thanx for chating with me. I made a post awhile ago and never got any results.

how hard is it to make a stand alone harness out of the vw? can i get another harness and ecm from a odb1 and use them? cali smog laws suck

[tom5191]

With the immobilizers you kinda have to watch what ECU you put in, especially since they changed from OBD1 to OBD2 in 1996 with that motor.

As far as a stand alone, you could always go Megasquirt. It's a DIY stand alone set up. Cheaper than most other stand alones and they sell everything you need in kits to get it going.

Here's some info on it:
MegaSquirt | Engine Management System | Electronic Fuel Injection - DIYAutoTune.com
MegaSquirt - Electronic Fuel Injection Computer by Bowling and Grippo ©2010

[stevew007]

Originally Posted by tom5191

With the immobilizers you kinda have to watch what ECU you put in, especially since they changed from OBD1 to OBD2 in 1996 with that motor.

As far as a stand alone, you could always go Megasquirt. It's a DIY stand alone set up. Cheaper than most other stand alones and they sell everything you need in kits to get it going.

Here's some info on it:
MegaSquirt | Engine Management System | Electronic Fuel Injection - DIYAutoTune.com
MegaSquirt - Electronic Fuel Injection Computer by Bowling and Grippo ©2010

got to stay legal for the smog Nazi's here in CA

[tom5191]

I'd make it OBD2. Easier to scan code and add performance if you can get it to pass smog.

You can make any 1993-1999.5 2.0 into a 8v with the ECU and harness. To go from OBD1 to OBD2 you'll need
obd2 ecu
obd2 engine harness
obd2 engine bay/lighting harness( won't need since you're putting it in a Samurai)
obd2 upper intake manifold with throttle body.

[stevew007]

well this went south lol
the guy said it ran ruff. then after many emails and talking with him he said it would need work to make it run???? I dont want to buy a motor that has bent valves and god knows what else wrong with it.I wanted to hear it at least. plus im not into pushing cars up my driveway LOL its only 20ft and drops over 2ft then getting it on a trailer yeah right I'm to lazy for the crap.

I guess when the time comes to do a swap it will happen.

thanx for bs'ing with me though. looking at all the small car forums gave me big ideas. like a awd turbo talon thats down the street for $1500 LOL BUT then again this has given me so many other ideas that are cheap. like a elantra motor @130hp cheap when you can find them LOL