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Old 09-23-2009, 09:50 PM
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Default Engine Temperature + thermostat issues (LOTS OF CONTENT)

So here is a cooling system and engine temperature issue thread. Read this before posting on your over heating car and such. I will also outline the commonly failing thermostat. So heres the issues.

Overheating:

-Check that your fans are cycling (If not check your fuse in position 19 for your radiator fans, check your thermoswitch is functioning on lower radiator, or check the fan motor itself)

-Check that your not low on coolant and that your concentration is 50/50.

-Clogged coolant hoses or plugged radiator. If it only over heats at highway speeds sometimes the lower radiator hose collapses at highway speeds.

-Worst case senario your head gasket could be blown.
-Thermostat is stuck closed

-Radiator fins could be full of bugs/ dirt etc, clean it out.

-Worn out water pump thus not being able to circulate coolant correctly.

Underheating:

-The only thing that will cause this is a thermostat stuck open which i will go over right after this.

Thermostat symptoms and replacing (2L Engine)

The thermostat tends to get stuck open on these 2L engines frequently and will cause the below symptoms. It will cause poor gas mileage and cause your engine oil to start sludging and also lower than normal heater output. Mine was stuck open so i decided to change it. Its a very tedious and dirty job if your doing it by yourself and with a jack on the garage floor. It took me 2 hours on my first time with no breaks. So heres how it boils down your symptoms on thermostat.

Thermostat stuck open

-Will drop in temperature while driving at highway speeds and temperature will flucuate.

-Will warm up SLOW, if it takes 5-10 minutes for your car to warm up on a hot day then its stuck open.

Stuck Closed

-Its simple your car will overheat since your thermostat is stuck closed and wont circulate coolant when it starts to over heat.

THERMOSTAT REPLACEMENT

First of all you will need the following for the job, i am not going into detail about belt removal. If you have only basic knowledge of working on cars, leave this job to the pros!(I am using tools in metric not imperial sorry!!):

-3L of coolant and 3L of water (Cooling system has a 5.8L capacity)
-Thermostat and O-ring
-Thermostat housing(Cheap part, tends to break during removal)
-13mm wrench(For alternator tensioner)
-10mm socket(Thermostat housing),13mm socket(All power steering bolts except 1),16mm socket(Bolt that holds power steering pump to main bracket)
-22 mm socket for power steering pump tensioner cog.

1. Use your 13mm wrench to move tensioner away from you and let the serpentine belt hang.
2.Loosen all bolts holding power steering pump to the pivot bracket and use the cog to remove tension on belt. Dont try and turn the cog if all the bolts arent loose or removed you will strip the cog, its soft aluminum. Then remove belt of the car, i left the serpentine belt just hanging on pullys.
3. Now that belt is off remove the 3 bolts that hold the power steering pump and bracket to the block. Once this is done the pump will drop and you can just let it hang, NO NEED TO REMOVE ANY HOSES.
4. Open expansion tank for coolant and get ready to drain it. Now that P/S pump is hanging you will see thermostat housing right about where P/S pump was. Now pull the coolant hose that is connected to thermostat housing and ALL coolant will drain out in the system.
5. Use your 10mm wrench to remove two bolts on thermostat housing (I used pentrating fluid to loosen these up). Pull housing off and VOILA there is the thermostat, simply pull the thermostat right out. Might give you some trouble so use pliers if needed.
5. Put new thermostat in and O-ring on after thermostat installed(NOTE: The thermostat will not stay in place until you put thermostat housing back on. The O-ring is tough to keep in place with out it dropping out(Very frustrating), but keep trying it will happen.)
6. Now everything is the reverse of removal, good luck!

You will notice the difference in warming up time right away, its crazy

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question could this make your car shut off on you randomly?
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