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Hello, We're looking at a friends used 96 gl Jetta. Problem is it won't start. It was a DD until 6 months ago, the alarm wouldn't turn off, so he disconnected the battery cable. I used the key to reset the alarm and all is well. Is there an anti theft issue that is causing the no start? It has spark and fuel, It cranks but sounds weird. He has a 97 Jetta that we were comparing it to.

I was watching the timing belt and checked how tight it was with my hand (car off). The belt feels very loose, I can twist it with a finger, should it be as tight as the Serp belt? I'm wondering if it jumped timing, it drove fine 6 months ago? 134,000 miles, my friend had the belt changed in the past, I don't know about the tensioner.

This might be a $200 first car for my daughter, no problem tuning up and going through it. Thanks
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Your belt should be taunt. Either the belt has stretched, or the belt tensioner probably needs to be replaced. Since you already have the cover off the timing belt, it isn't hard to check your timing. There's a post somewhere on this forum. If you can't find it, let me know and I can probably find the link.
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I checked the "OT" marks at the cam sprocket, bell housing and the dizzy mark is aligned as should be. I removed the fuel tank cover , the fuel pump is working. I pulled three codes also
1. 1582
2. 1426
3. P0341

The tensioner probably needs to be replaced.
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P0341 is "Camshaft position sensor (hall sender) circ. range performance. This means your hall sender on your distributor is going bad. Since you already have the timing belt cover off and know how to check the dizzy position and timing, this should be an easy fix.

P1582 - "idle adaptation at limit" I'm not 100% sure, but I think it refers to your idle air valve. I'd take it off and clean it out good. Since your Jetta is a 1996, it is due for a cleaning anyway.

P1426 - "tank vent valve open" Again, I'm not 100% sure, but I think you need a new gas cap. I've seen a lot posted about bad gas caps and VW's on this site, and a bad cap will cause poor performance.
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I ran all the tests on the Hall unit from the VW repair manual, it all checked out, same with the coil. I have no idea why it won't start. Oh wel,l I clayed the paint and waxed the beast. No won't start but it's clean
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When VW's go into alarm mode, the ignition system will lock up. You said you used the key to reset the alarm, did you Lock the door from the outside, and then Unlock it again?

Since the hall sender looks good, I'd clean the throttle body. Also, you may have a bad crank sensor. You can buy one on one of the auto parts websites for around $25.

VW's can be temperamental. If all else fails, tell the Jetta "Ich liebe dich!"
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When VW's go into alarm mode, the ignition system will lock up. You said you used the key to reset the alarm, did you Lock the door from the outside, and then Unlock it again?

Since the hall sender looks good, I'd clean the throttle body. Also, you may have a bad crank sensor. You can buy one on one of the auto parts websites for around $25.

VW's can be temperamental. If all else fails, tell the Jetta "Ich liebe dich!"
Yes I reset it with the key from the outside. I checked the compression and the gauge doesn't even register, zero, nada. I'm doing this with the plenum removed, I can't believe this was a running Jetta 6 months ago.
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No compression? I would pull the valve cover and see if the cam is turning and the valves move. Stuck valve from sitting?
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Belt broke when I twisted it, New belt installed, do I need to align the intermediate shaft O/T marks to the crank pulley? The manual shows that for the ACC 1.8L motor only? not the ABA 2.0L motor. Thanks.

IT'S ALIVE. Manual mirrors don't work. Thanks

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Well I got it finished, start, runs. I need new plug wires. Is there an easy fix to get the manual mirrors to adjust. Thanks
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Congratulations on getting the car running again! Hopefully you don't need to go through this exercise again..

If you are talking about the knobs for operating the mirrors on the inside of the doors, I'd adjust the mirrors by applying pressure to the mirror in the direction you want to adjust. I'm sure there are rods for adjusting the mirrors inside the doors. However, if you take off the inside panels, you always run the risk that the plastic tabs on old door panels will break and it never looks the same again. If you're brave, there's always liquid nail if you need to glue them back on again.
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