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Old 01-19-2013, 04:50 PM
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It's a 2002 gti with 107k for $3200. It has a full touchscreen navi/DVD and some subs in it. Also some decent 18" Drift Venom rims and KUMHO tires. Comes with the stock radio and wheels. The issue is it has a serious idle problem. If you take your foot off the gas it dies. After 2k rpm it's ok but still not much power. I was thinking vacuum leak or a bad sensor. But the check engine light isn't on so I wouldn't think it's a sensor. Any advise before I drop $3200? (Since I won't have much money left after paying for the car) any help is also appreciated.

Also, my other options are:
- a 2001 Jetta 1.8t Wolfsburg edition with 168k for $3k (it needs a door panel and glove box. Guy says he has receipts for many replaced parts)

- a 2000 beetle 1.8t with 153k for $1600. It has some paint chips on the rear bumper where it was rear ended and needs the grill and fog light section in the bumper

- a 2003 srt-4 (I know I know it's a neon. It's just an option) with 114k for $4500 (that price is seriously pushing it)

- a 2003 pt loser gt 2.4t with 127k for $3000
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I'd check kbb.com first just to get a rough idea. I'm sure more people will chime in later.
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Ya the only ones under book value are the srt-4 and the beetle. If the srt-4s interior wasn't so crappy I'd consider it. With 215hp stock it's a fast car. I'm just really not a neon guy. And if the beetle, gti, and Jetta all have the same motor, wouldn't they all be pretty equal in performance? My biggest thing is worrying about getting the gti home, being down 3200 and not being able to drive it. I work on my 2.0 non turbo all te time but I've never touched a turbo motor. Could it be boost leak?
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It's a 2002 gti with 107k for $3200. It has a full touchscreen navi/DVD and some subs in it. Also some decent 18" Drift Venom rims and KUMHO tires. Comes with the stock radio and wheels. The issue is it has a serious idle problem. If you take your foot off the gas it dies. After 2k rpm it's ok but still not much power. I was thinking vacuum leak or a bad sensor. But the check engine light isn't on so I wouldn't think it's a sensor. Any advise before I drop $3200? (Since I won't have much money left after paying for the car) any help is also appreciated.

Also, my other options are:
- a 2001 Jetta 1.8t Wolfsburg edition with 168k for $3k (it needs a door panel and glove box. Guy says he has receipts for many replaced parts)

- a 2000 beetle 1.8t with 153k for $1600. It has some paint chips on the rear bumper where it was rear ended and needs the grill and fog light section in the bumper

- a 2003 srt-4 (I know I know it's a neon. It's just an option) with 114k for $4500 (that price is seriously pushing it)

- a 2003 pt loser gt 2.4t with 127k for $3000
all i can tell you from experience is buy something totally stock cause u dont want other peoples rigged mods that went bad to be your headache... from all your options here id go with the wolfsburg and offer 2600, cause ull want to do a custom interior anyways if not put all gli stuff in it
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all i can tell you from experience is buy something totally stock cause u dont want other peoples rigged mods that went bad to be your headache... from all your options here id go with the wolfsburg and offer 2600, cause ull want to do a custom interior anyways if not put all gli stuff in it
What exactly does "Wolfsburg" mean. I mean, I know it's on Germany but why makes a Wolfsburg edition different than a regular glx? I've read on here that it is just a feature but couldn't find exactly what it includes. The guy for that car is staying real firm on $3000, which I'm fine with. If the beetle wasn't such a chick car I'd go with that because $1600 for the car would leave me a lot of money for mods. You think that Jetta is a better deal than the gti? It would be better for me since I have kids but I like that the gti has leather, the mice wheels and the navigation/DVD. But that idle problem scares me. And the gti only books for about $3200 stock without the idle problem.
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Gti has more space than the jetta, same amount of seats so it's better if you have kids. By the looks of the gti, stock suspension, stock air box, has battery box, engine cover, non polished manifold. Car looks clean, low miles.
The idle problem is probably an easy fix.
If the gti is a manual I would jump on it.
Tell him 3,000 and say you could use the 200 to help sort out the idle problem. I see no reason why he wouldn't take the offer.

If it's not a manual and the jetta is. First, check the vin number. The first character on the vin number should be a W. If it's a 3 it was made in mexico, if it's a 9 it was made in brazil.
At this point talk him down to what you feel is reasonable with it not being what he said it was. Otherwise 3k is not a terrible price.
Door panel and glove box can be found at a junk yard for cheap.

I stress to get a manual with these 1.8t motors. It will eat the auto transmission for breakfast.
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Yes they're definitely all manual. I'm not even shopping for an auto because that's what the golf I have now is. These numbers are the sellers rock bottom prices, but that's just over the phone. Cash in their face might be different. The only one I've test drove so far is the gti. I think the 4 door Jetta would be a better suit for kids than the 2 door gti, but I'm willing to sacrifice for that gti. Besides, in that car the front seats move up differently than any car I've ever seen. It really gives a lot of space to get in and out of the back.
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The guy with the gti said he took it to a shop and they said its a vacuum leak which makes sense, but I have a hard time just taking his word for it. He also said he bought it from his lieutenant who brought it over here from Germany. He got it 5 years ago for $15k. How much do you think I could sell the stock wheels for? Tires aren't great but rideable.
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Gti has more space than the jetta, same amount of seats so it's better if you have kids. By the looks of the gti, stock suspension, stock air box, has battery box, engine cover, non polished manifold. Car looks clean, low miles.
The idle problem is probably an easy fix.
Ya even the exhaust is stock, which I don't much care for. But hey it's better than the shitty job the previous owner did with my golf. There's a dv sports muffler on it and it leaks like hell. I don't think there's any welds at all.

As far as the idle issue, he said the shop quoted him $250 to fix it. But I'm not about to pay a shop $250 to fix some vacuum lines. Do you think a vacuum line is the likely culprit?
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I'm looking on vortex classifieds and there's stock mk4 gti's for around $7k with over 100k miles. Is this the going rate? I always go by kbb which would put those cars around 3k-4k!
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He has the oem wolfsburg bbs wheels.
Missing grilles but thats a cheap fix. Looks completely OEM. Still can check vin number for reference. If you choose this check for a recipt on timing belt and water pump.

Can't go wrong with either one. Didn't see the gti was a 2 door! My bad.

It could very well be a vacuum leak. There's a couple other areas that could be your idle culprit but I don't remember any of them being that expensive or difficult.
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What exactly does "Wolfsburg" mean. I mean, I know it's on Germany but why makes a Wolfsburg edition different than a regular glx? I've read on here that it is just a feature but couldn't find exactly what it includes. The guy for that car is staying real firm on $3000, which I'm fine with. If the beetle wasn't such a chick car I'd go with that because $1600 for the car would leave me a lot of money for mods. You think that Jetta is a better deal than the gti? It would be better for me since I have kids but I like that the gti has leather, the mice wheels and the navigation/DVD. But that idle problem scares me. And the gti only books for about $3200 stock without the idle problem.
All mk4 jettas were made in mexico, its called wolfsburg edition cause it was a special package, you got bolstered bucket seats up front, bbs wheels, 3 spoke steering wheel, monsoon stereo and sunroof. Its no where near a glx cause those came with a TON of extra features and a 6 cylinder motor. A gti and jetta have the same cabin space, jetta has a huge trunk thou and 2 extra doors for the kiddos....
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