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official pictures have been released from vw vortex. what do you guys all think?? i personally think it's disgusting. however, i say that about a lot of things until it grows on me.

here are some pics





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I think VW is moving forward with the Flow and Trend that seems to be popular now.

I like it. Looks like the Toureg and Pheaton did have unprotected sex after all.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Montana Green GTI:
well it kinda reminds me of a honda SI<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That was my first thought too.

At first look I don't love it, but I think it will grow on me quickly. I want to see a 2 door...Thomas, little PChop action??
 

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not sure how much a pshop will help, they said the 2-door/GTi will have different styling cues, which may be a good thing.

"The all-new Jetta built on the same platform will be introduced about a year from now and will have the same front end as the Golf V (
) you see in the photos above. Worldwide Jetta production is moving to Mexico for the new model. A Jetta Coupe hardtop convertible (
) is also expected to be introduced in the next two years."

and this is what I posted at the 'tex:
eh... gonna have to grow on me, I hate how the car slops up from the front to the rear. MK4 was much straighter I think. the rubstrips don't even line up and are just kinda 'there', I liked how they were sort of a guide around the car before. hood slopes too much with the windshield, kinda looks like the new Civic hatches aka Mini-Minivan. headlights and taillights look way too big, I liked the horizontal feel to the MK4s, not the round ones like this. oh well, not much we can do.

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like i said in the early post it has to grow on me but it seems to me that yes they are going toward the new trend, ie civic si-ish, but it's also losing it's heritage. for instance it no longer has a single tail lights like the mk1-mk4 tails. the body looks cool but it also looks very big. to me it seems that the gti/golf is losing a part of itself as it progresses from generation to generation.

i don't understand why the jetta has the same front end??

the engines are cool but i think the mk4 had the best set of engines for the gti(1.8t and vr6). potential customers now only have 2 engines to chose from 150 hp inline 5 or 2.0t(200 hp 4 banger). the r32 engine will be there but for some reason it will be available at a later date.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Straz85:
That was my first thought too.

At first look I don't love it, but I think it will grow on me quickly. I want to see a 2 door...Thomas, little PChop action??
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Did someone say Thomas?



Heck, let's just say I couldn't stop choping.




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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 1point8T:
the engines are cool but i think the mk4 had the best set of engines for the gti(1.8t and vr6). potential customers now only have 2 engines to chose from 150 hp inline 5 or 2.0t(200 hp 4 banger). the r32 engine will be there but for some reason it will be available at a later date.
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those are just for the Golf though, GTi is unannouced.
 

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Found this too.

Sorry it's so long.

The new GOLF — The First facts

Supremely dynamic – the Original

The fifth Golf model generation will be here in the Autumn of 2003
The biggest evolutionary step forward since this model was first introduced

Wolfsburg. The Golf, the most successful German car of all time, reaches its fifth model generation in the autumn of 2003. Its design and technical features are more supreme, more dynamic than ever before. The new model will be recognised immediately as the latest version of a truly original concept, the ‘Golf class’. The styling, with its characteristic C-post, powerfully shaped rear end, emphatically sporting nose and muscular, wedge-shaped outline, communicates a new, supremely dynamic personality.

Ever since a model bearing this name was first introduced almost thirty years ago, the Golf has been as unique as a one’s own fingerprint. One of the secrets of its worldwide success (more than 22 million Golfs have so far been sold) is that Volkswagen, when it produced a direct successor to the Beetle, created an ‘original’ that resists imitation. For four generations now, the design has been perfected and updated, but it has always represented a stylistic image of its time. The fifth Golf model that is about to be launched retains this unique character but is also the biggest step forward so far in the evolution of this model, both visually and technically. The design team has given the new Golf a even more sharply focused dynamic character that also sets new emotive accents.

The front-end styling is new in every detail, and optimised for low aerodynamic drag. Another unmistakable feature are the twin circular headlights with the glass tapering toward the centre of the car and with horizontal flashing turn indicators in “Phaeton” style. Above the headlights, the side panels now rise more in a more pronounced curve than before and as part of the opening section of the engine hood, create a slightly V-shaped outline together with the radiator grille, that emphasises the dynamic character of this new Volkswagen even more.

The rear of the body is styled in an equally powerful manner: the rear body shoulders emphasise the Golf’s strong visual presence, the bold rear lights with their twin circular elements are another immediately recognisable feature of current Volkswagen design. Half of each rear light cluster is incorporated into the tailgate, which is neatly laid out, with a large rear window that ensures a good view to the rear and, together with the side windows extending back as far as the C-post, for visual lightness and elegance. The overall effect is an emotive one that makes the new Golf seem even more agile and dynamic than any of the previous model generations.

Equipment and décor – perfection down to the smallest detail

This dynamic image is possessed by every version of the new Golf, which as a high-volume model will debut with two- or four-door body styles and be available with Trendline, Comfortline or Sportline decor. Common to all these versions is a very full luxury and safety specification including six airbags, five head restraints (of active pattern for the front seats), lap-and-shoulder seat belts, a new type of safety steering column and a pedal assembly that yields to minimise the risk of injury in the event of a crash.

Every detail of the design has been perfectly solved: the controls for instance, are easily understood and ergonomically correct in their positioning; all functional levels have been kept separate to avoid confusion, and the switches and pushbuttons can be operated intuitively. An example of this is the optional Climatronic automatic air conditioning, which has separate controls for the driver and front passenger: if the car is reversed, it switches to the recirculated-air mode. If the windscreen washer is operated, the intelligent control system interrupts the fresh-air supply immediately. The seats are another good example: they are of entirely new design, for maximum occupant comfort, and Volkswagen is also the first manufacturer to offer a car in this market segment with the option of four-way electric lumbar support (integrated into the electrically adjustable seat) and also an independent heater for use when the car is at a standstill. In addition to the 60 : 40 split rear seat backs, which can be folded down as a standard feature, an optional front passenger’s seat back that folds forward can also be obtained for maximum load-carrying capacity.

The body – a new value standard

The body itself is wider than before (1,759 mm / + 24 mm) and also higher (1,483 mm / + 39 mm) and longer (4,204 mm / + 57 mm); it therefore provided distinctly more interior space, particularly in the rear-seat area (+ 65 mm legroom, + 24 mm headroom at the rear and + 8 mm at the front. The luggage compartment now holds 347 litres and the interior length has gone up by 54 mm. These gains move the Golf nearer to the next-higher passenger-car category, but in doing so also serve to emphasise its classless character. This is even more true of the standard of quality it achieves, which is unique in this market segment. The bodyshell’s static rigidity value is an impressive 80 % (!) higher and thus superior to any of the new Golf’s competitors.

Suspension – extreme agility and safety

Volkswagen has given the Golf’s new, dynamic safety suspension settings that are at the same time sporty and comfortable. At the front, the spring strut suspension layout has been optimised in many areas, to ensure accurate directional guidance and stability. At the rear, a new multi-link suspension layout has been developed. The handling and ride quality have been perfected by a completely new and highly innovative form of electro-mechanical power steering, which not only provides a degree of power assistance that matches the car’s road speed, but also makes a big contribution to straight-line precision. Standard features on the new Golf are the latest ESP electronic stabilisation programme and a Brake Assist device, to guarantee maximum stability and retention of the chosen line when cornering and braking. The brake system, with optimised cooling, forms a reliable basis for excellent stopping distances. In the sum of all these positive features, the Golf’s chassis and suspension represents an unparalleled blend of ride comfort to a standard normally only associated with a much larger car, excellent steering response and road behaviour.

The power train – with innovative direct injection

The power train also provides ample evidence of Volkswagen’s technological leadership. The keyword here is direct fuel injection. Taking the TDI diesel engines as an example, the supreme new power unit in this area is the 2.0 TDI, which develops 103 kW (140 PS). It is a high-torque four-cylinder unit with four valves per cylinder, driving the wheels through a new six-speed gearbox or with the option of the direct-shift gearbox (also with six speeds). Volkswagen was the first manufacturer worldwide to introduce this type of gearbox, in its Golf R31 DSG model. Then there are the FSI engines: this abbreviation is used for the units with direct petrol injection. The 1.6 FSI, rated at 85 kW (115 PS), has already proved successful in the Touran and is now to be available in the Golf. Here too, a six-speed gearbox is standard equipment, but the driver can, as an optional extra, leave the gear changes to a smooth, efficient six-sped automatic transmission. The new Golf will be launched with a choice of four power units – two petrol engines (55 kW / 75 PS and the 1.6 FSI with an output of 85 kW (115 PS), and two TDI diesels (77 kW / 105 PS or 103 kW / 140 PS). All Golf engines comply with the EU 4 exhaust emission standard. Four further engines will be launched slightly later, including two FSI units and an SDI diesel. In due course, additional engine options at the top end of the power-output scale will also become available. Delivery of cars with the automatic transmission and DSG options will start early in 2004




 

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Hmmm... I would really have to see this in person before i really set my mind on it. My first impression on it is the first picture the front looks short, and it looks like it sits up high, but when i look at the second picture, it looks lower to the ground and the front looks longer. I like the headlights but they look a little to big and the rears look like they take up 25% of the space. I do like the short attn. and if you look on the bumper, it looks like they have the sensors on there which is cool. Now show me it and person so i can take a look on the inside, the actual shape of it, what the wheels look like, and how it really performs then i'll give my final verdict on it.
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i like it.... i like the chop better though... anyway i think vw is making great headway, but i think they would sell alot more cars if they made a performance step, much like the r32, AWD beefy motor, i understand vw built its origional reputation on fuel economy, due to the outstanding euro gasoline prices. now before i continue i do want to say i love my car, but.. subaru has made a great name for itself with the wrx, and now the wrx sti, now the wrx is a bit out of my price range, and you have to be a real gear-head to dig its lines... so to wrap up i think they should make a car without many extras, like one that comes with a/c, a good stereo, a neat guage pod and some chillin seats (like the GTI), that can put a good 210hp to all four factory....oh well call me a dreamer!
 

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Good job Thomas! If you didn't know it was PChopped, that would definitely pass for an actual 2 door Golf! You never cease to amaze me! Oh yeah, and on that note, I put the VWF theme you made on a CD and listened to it on the way to Waterfest too!
 
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