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Hello, my 2003 Golf Mk4 2L broke down with temp gauge on half as it usually is and I'm always checking it but the STOP alert with red arrows came on the dash; temp gauge was redlining. So I braked and pulled over with no loss of power/smoke/noise/lurching. Had car towed to nearest mechanic as I'm 600kms from home and ordered the part and 7 litres of pre-mix G12 coolant. Checked the oil and it wasn't milky. Car idled nicely for the roadside assistance guy and for the second towtruck driver taking it to the mechanic who drove it onto the truck. I thought the mechanic would replace the hose connector then flush and bleed the cooling system and let the car run to check the temperature. I told the service manager I was worried it might be something more serious and not to drive it at any cost before checking things but when I got there today they were driving it back into the yard for the SECOND TIME. I asked the guy driving it if he'd already put the coolant in and he said nahh we topped it up and I said what with?? They said water, and I said did you bleed it and he said it was bled already, and I said what are you talking about?? He then told me it's running badly and said they'd topped it up with 3L of water then took it for two spins. Unbelievable. And now when you start it up the fan cuts in after about 10 seconds and it sounds like its struggling a bit with the idling. Not a good sign and I'm thinking it could be a cylinder head gasket but the fact that there was still half the water in the system and no milky oil and no power loss or other sign, I was really hanging on to this thing called optimism. And it really looked to me like this hose was pitted and had sheared off and that this was the cause of the overheating through loss of water and pressure. Anyway, I asked this muppet of a mechanic what he was planning to do next and if he had checked the spark plugs to see if it could be the head and I asked if he had the gear to do a compression test and he said yes and he'd do the compression test in the moring, so that's the next step. He didn't even check the thermostat. I'm so nervous and worried and I have no confidence in this guy who's apparently been a mechanic for 30 years. He said he "bled" the cooling system by leaving the cap off the reservoir and driving it or letting it run as he reckons when his car overheats, he just drives it around the block and I said yeah but your system is CLOSED and mine burst open and is full of AIR. Sorry for rambling but I am freaking out. I know I stopped it as soon as the temp gauge was up and I don't know if this split hose was the cause or a symptom of a bigger problem i.e. the cylinder head gasket going but if it was just the hose could there be a good chance that my engine was fine before they drove it?? I wonder if you have some experience and could suggest what we should look at and what steps should be taken next in which order, and finally, if driving it could have done any further damage. Thanks so much. I've been staying in a motel for five days while awaiting the part and coolant but I'll likely have to put us both on a truck and head back to Melbourne to a Volkswagen specialist.
 

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since I know it is bad to have the hose connectors mounted on top with closed coolers like Corsair H series. Is it bad in a custom loop, if my best tubing options would be to mount both my vertical radiators (front/back) with the hose connectors on the top instead of the snaptube vidmate bottom?
 

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since I know it is bad to have the hose connectors mounted on top with closed coolers like Corsair H series. Is it bad in a custom loop, if my best tubing options would be to mount both my vertical radiators (front/back) with the hose connectors on the top instead of the bottom?
Thanks for that, unfortunately, my car engine is stuffed so I bought another APK engine and it'll be going in over the next few weeks. I am gutted. When the car overheated on the highway and I pulled over IMMEDIATELY and saw the hose severed, I was picked up in a tow truck and he asked to start the engine and it idled nicely. The next day, I checked the oil cap and dipstick and there was no yellow so a good sign the head was OK and no coolant in the oil. No leaks from the head and a small one under the car that was oil but not even sure it was from my car. I took it to Homer Simpson the mechanic's and ordered the part and coolant from Melbourne and left it there with explicit instructions NOT TO DRIVE IT not like I should've had to say this but also when I handed the keys over, I said YOU'RE THE GATEKEEPER and to call me when the part arrived. I organised all of this and knew the part was coming at around 2:30PM but hadn't heard so I called at 4PM and the service manager told me "it's running badly". I got there shortly after to catch one of the guys driving it into the yard and I said what the HELL are you doing driving it and I said so you've flushed the system and bled it and all that and he hopped out quickly and locked it up and kept the keys and disappeared but not before revealing that he had driven it twice and "bled" the system by running it with the cap off and topping it up with water without flushing the radiator or testing the thermostat or nuthin'. I had to wait 40 mins then for the head mechanic to come out and I asked him to start it and tell me how it's running badly, and it was, just struggling to idle a bit like it wasn't when it went on the first and second tow trucks, and the fan cut in after about ten seconds and I said that NEVER happens and I am sure they cooked the engine because I took a photo of the odometer and they DROVE 6 KMS but lied about this, among other things, and didn't put it on the invoice that they had even drove it out of the yard. I had it booked into another mechanic when first trying to find someone in this backwater town, and I kept that booking and since I was being stuffed around by this mob, I kept the appointment and went in to get my car. The service manager (female admin) had told me it wasn't overheating as per the head mechanic and that there was no water in the cylinders = all good signs, and my mechanic had said to pick up the car and drive it around 30 mins and see if it overheats and if not, take it easy on the drive home, which was 600kms - but I was still taking it to the second mechanic to flush the radiator and look over it. So, long story, sorry, I start driving it to this mechanic and I've only done 1km with the heater on and the needle is moving up to 90 where it usually sits but it keeps going to 100 so I pull over. They've told me it's not overheating but I can't even go 2kms and it's going to cook, and they drove it SIX KILOMETRES. I am livid. I wanted to ask though with this part that broke and the fact that the oil wasn't milky and no leaks and all the other good signs, how likely is it that an engine can withstand that, only to be cooked later as a result of driving it??
 

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Thanks for that, unfortunately, my car engine is stuffed so I bought another APK engine and it'll be going in over the next few weeks. I am gutted. When the car overheated on the highway and I pulled over IMMEDIATELY and saw the hose severed, I was picked up in a tow truck and he asked to start the engine and it idled nicely. The next day, I checked the oil cap and dipstick and there was no yellow so a good sign the head was OK and no coolant in the oil. No leaks from the head and a small one under the car that was oil but not even sure it was from my car. I took it to Homer Simpson the mechanic's and ordered the part and coolant from Melbourne and left it there with explicit instructions NOT TO DRIVE IT not like I should've had to say this but also when I handed the keys over, I said YOU'RE THE GATEKEEPER and to call me when the part arrived. I organised all of this and knew the part was coming at around 2:30PM but hadn't heard so I called at 4PM and the service manager told me "it's running badly". I got there shortly after to catch one of the guys driving it into the yard and I said what the HELL are you doing driving it and I said so you've flushed the system and bled it and all that and he hopped out quickly and locked it up and kept the keys and disappeared but not before revealing that he had driven it twice and "bled" the system by running it with the cap off and topping it up with water without flushing the radiator or testing the thermostat or nuthin'. I had to wait 40 mins then for the head mechanic to come out and I asked him to start it and tell me how it's running badly, and it was, just struggling to idle a bit like it wasn't when it went on the first and second tow trucks, and the fan cut in after about ten seconds and I said that NEVER happens and I am sure they cooked the engine because I took a photo of the odometer and they DROVE 6 KMS but lied about this, among other things, and didn't put it on the invoice that they had even drove it out of the yard. I had it booked into another mechanic when first trying to find someone in this backwater town, and I kept that booking and since I was being stuffed around by this mob, I kept the appointment and went in to get my car. The service manager (female admin) had told me it wasn't overheating as per the head mechanic and that there was no water in the cylinders = all good signs, and my mechanic had said to pick up the car and drive it around 30 mins and see if it overheats and if not, take it easy on the drive home, which was 600kms - but I was still taking it to the second mechanic to flush the radiator and look over it. So, long story, sorry, I start driving it to this mechanic and I've only done 1km with the heater on and the needle is moving up to 90 where it usually sits but it keeps going to 100 so I pull over. They've told me it's not overheating but I can't even go 2kms and it's going to cook, and they drove it SIX KILOMETRES. I am livid. I wanted to ask though with this part that broke and the fact that the oil wasn't milky and no leaks and all the other good signs, how likely is it that an engine can withstand that, only to be cooked later as a result of driving it??
I meant to add that I think the fan came on because the engine was so HOT after driving it and cooking it.
 
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