The turbo may add some complications. APT makes real nice setups. I know this shop in Bangor, PA that does some amazing turbo VR6 setups with APT parts. They told me about $6000 for a full setup including stand alone engine management, intercooler, T3/T04 turbo, and full installation. They have several turbo vr6 cars at the shop including the second fastest A2 in north America and Canada. They are called MMI Concepts and I would look them up if you are serious about it.
Just wanted to give MMI Concepts in Bangor, Pa some props on their work too. If you have the money and want a turbo setup definitely look these guys up. I think the number is (610)-588-3166. They built a mkII GTI vr6 turbo that runs in the low 10's and are pretty knowlegable in vw's. They would be happy to answer any of your questions.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fourt1thirty: VR6 and reliable don't exactly go together normally... when you add turbo in there, it just gets worse.
I like ATP myself.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My VR6 is pretty reliable I think. That could definitely change with a TC on there!
I hate to be that guy with a contradicting opinion but what makes everyone say VR6T's are unreliable? I think maybe it is because alot of the VRT cars running around today are what you would call more "junkyard" setups. Stock fuel system, stock compression or 310cc's, never doing a bleed down on the motor to see if it is good for turbo or not and most importantly poor tuning. Yes, I threw a rod through the block but I was pushing over 440hp on stock shot peened rods and stand alone. I think it goes by the old saying of "do it right the first time or not at all" concept. Alot of guys are running around on ill-mapped software for their cars and more than likely a well worn in VR6. If you are thinking of going turbo do a compression check and if that comes out good than put something together that follows the lines of a ATP, EIP or Schimmel setup. Then pay a reputable tuner for some dyno time to iron out the timing, A/F, etc. Then you could have a reliable car that could be daily driven. I think it is the person doing the work on the car that makes it unreliable, not the motor
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fourt1thirty: Another big problem lies in the fact that a turbo VR just makes too much damn torque when turboed for street use.
Not that this is a bad thing... but go watch some vids of Brian's car right after te first turbo system (when it was still a street car). He touches the throttle... it spins the tires.
A well built VRT can be reliable. I've just always thought the 12 valve VR had too many cylinders and not enough valves.
The torque a VR6 makes sometimes can be a big minus on the street. If you can tune the car for gradual boost build and a great suspension/tire setup can do wonders
The 12V head definately holds back the potential of the motor but when you can still throw down 400+hp on minmimal boost I don't know if I can actually say it is a hindering factor